when i joined this forum in 2004, silent lambs was a very important venue for those who suffered the crime of child abuse in the jehovah's witness religion.
bill bowen was instrumental in exposing a lot of the cover up along with barbara anderson.
i was wondering if silent lambs is still relevant and does it still help abuse victims?.
This is Barbara Anderson's new website.
https://watchtowerdocuments.org
If you do a Google search for it the link takes you to an odd place, so beware.
I wonder how much time the authorities will have for child abuse issues? Their resources may be stretched by the riots.
we have to get rid of these racist relics.
i propose that we destroy all these bottles of syrups and burn every pancake box !
we need to get rid of anything that reminds us of anything negative concerning slavery.. in boston they decapitated the head of christopher columbus and got rid of his statue.
If everything built by slaves has to go, kiss goodbye to the swimming pool at Chelmsford.
Oh that wasn't really built by slaves though was it. That was built by fellow domestics for the faithful and discrete slave... class.
we have to get rid of these racist relics.
i propose that we destroy all these bottles of syrups and burn every pancake box !
we need to get rid of anything that reminds us of anything negative concerning slavery.. in boston they decapitated the head of christopher columbus and got rid of his statue.
Liberal can mean freedom - such as when Jesus said, "you'll know the truth and the true will set you free."
But liberal can also mean libertine.
The meaning of the word 'liberal' can be subject to semantic shift. Ie the meaning shifts according to who the audience is and how they are receiving/interpreting the info from the human transmittor (so to speak).
we have to get rid of these racist relics.
i propose that we destroy all these bottles of syrups and burn every pancake box !
we need to get rid of anything that reminds us of anything negative concerning slavery.. in boston they decapitated the head of christopher columbus and got rid of his statue.
Phoenixrising - what you are describing sounds like drugs culture. I say that because I used to work for a social housing organisation which dealt with vulnerable ones.
The vulnerable ones in my area had often suffered from bad parenting and were being supported to get a job and learn how to budget. Their accommodation was paid for and they usually lived in a massive house with some others.
A few would respond really well to this kind of support. But another few would make life in the accommodation impossible for everyone. They were the drug users who would bring their dealers round and wreck the place.
I remember hearing one of the carers say of the wreckers - "mentally they put themselves in a place where you cannot help them."
after further review and thought, i really don't see how removing a monument or statue that may be truly offensive to a large group of people is in some way rewriting history.. i think of germany or other parts of europe.
you don't see swastikas on buildings or statues of hitler or mussolini or other upper level generals in public.
would it be good for a person (think jewish) to drive around a city and see hitler in a public park, even though it is "historical?
Nazis believed in eugenics - but what is anti-semitism?
The reason I make this point is because I know religious people who frame negative comments about their religion as racist.
Racism is about skin colour.
Skin colour does not equal behavior.
Skin colour does not equal whether or not your behaviour is Christian or non Christian. Whether you treat others as you would like to be treated or not.
I can't imagine Jesus putting up a monument. Nor can I imagine him taking one down, unless it was an idol.
You don't need monuments for history. You need memory.
There is a statue I have always seen. Never knew who he was until recently. Knowing a bit about the history of where you live is interesting. But the most notable thing about this statue was that students would regularly stick a traffic cone on it. Then sadly there was an accident and a student fell off. For a short time, there were flowers around the statue. Then there were no more flowers. I suppose the students of that year left. But I wonder if they remember their friend, whose life was cut short for messing around on a statue.
lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
Dear Egypt
The bill for those outbuildings we did for you still hasn't been paid.
You have 14 days to settle up or we will add a further £50 a day to your bill.
lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
How about getting those who constructed Machu Pichu to make reparations? Wasn't that built using slavery? But if you look on Quora it wasn't slavery. According to academics slavery is a relatively new concept. Machu Pichu was built using forced labour with a blood bond. Does that mean human sacrifice? Does that mean they condoned murder? Wonder how the slavery of the Israelites in Egypt would get redefined? If the pyramids were built using slave labour, what would the ramifications of that be?
That’s a tricky question since slavery is a concept introduced into the Americas with the arrival of the Europeans. Inca’s empire had a social structure a lot different than European empires.
For this instance, Mita was the Quechuan name for reffering to forced labor, it required a blood bond between the Inca elite and the Ayllu, a community who paid for militar protection, redistribution of food, new technology, among others with Mita and some of their goods.
So, it makes sense that Machu Picchu was build through forced labor, but it wasn’t slavery as we conceive it right now.
Source: Peruvian History class I coursed years ago. Also, I’m Peruvian.
what are the craziest books or magazines the tower ever printed?
i know of the millions now living is crazy the finished mystery.
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The song book with the paedophile on the back.
Was someone trying to warn us?
there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.
even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.
for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.
Crazy elder said to me once that the 1000 year reign of Christ had already begun. So I told him that Satan hadn't been abyssed yet. He made a sort of gulping noise - as they do when you point these things out to them.
At some point after this, for a totally unrelated reason he started phoning someone and talking dirty to them. Then he got taken off as an elder. But it was all hushed up as to why he was taken off - that's cause so many of his family were elders.
Later that same family took the lead in throwing me out for sticking to what the Bible said.
there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.
even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.
for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.
They are declining in so far as anyone with half a brain is fading away or has left. But the ones who were called on but never really 'made the truth their own' are responding a little.
My take on this is that Lockdown has made some lonely and afraid. Also if your business depends on networking a church group can be a useful source of customers.
Informally they are saying that Armageddon will come before the end of the year. So no change there - it's still just around the corner, sometimes during or after a boring meeting.
